And so it begins...

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 03/30/2018 at 13:38 • Filed to: AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES WILL DESTROY US ALL, autonomous cars, Chevy

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A self-driving car from GM’s Cruise unit was pulled over by police in San Francisco earlier this week for driving too close to a pedestrian.

!!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! reports that the autonomous Chevrolet Bolt was pulled over for failing to yield to a pedestrian at a crosswalk. However, Cruise claims that the vehicle kept a safe distance from the pedestrian.

Cruise asserts that the pedestrian was 10.8 feet away from the pedestrian when the vehicle was operating in self-driving mode. The car continued to drive down Harrison at 14th Street before it was pulled over.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 13:45

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shoulda shot it...... we’re all doomed now

Nibby > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 13:49

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2/10 not a self-driving mustang

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Nibby 03/30/2018 at 13:54

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You just describe a perfect nightmare scenario. Just imagine the Cars and Coffee fatalities.

Nibby > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 13:56

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Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 13:57

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Urambo Tauro > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 14:08

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...onboard data shows the pedestrian was 10.8 feet away from the car when it began driving in autonomous mode...

Is Cruise trying to be a smartass here? Who cares about there being a 10.8 foot proximity when autonomous mode was first turned on? If this is really about driving too closely, then what’s the closest distance the car allowed itself to drive in proximity to the pedestrian?

Ah, but it’s not about that, is it? The ticket wasn’t about “driving too closely”, but about failure to yield. So, does a 10.8 ft margin (if this measurement is accurate) constitute a failure to yield in the state of California?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Urambo Tauro 03/30/2018 at 14:10

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“California law requires the vehicle to yield the right of way to pedestrians, allowing them to proceed undisturbed and unhurried without fear of interference of their safe passage through an intersection. Our data indicates that’s what happened here.” I guess it was totally up to cop who decided to enforce this.

McMike > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 14:12

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McMike > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 14:14

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To be honest, they pulled the human driver over, not the automated driver.

Now I have to ask... How do you pull over an automated car?

Urambo Tauro > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 14:14

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That wording sounds awfully vague. “10.8 feet” doesn’t seem to do anything to help deny or admit fault, then. But FWIW, that is nearly one whole lane-width...

Tekamul > Urambo Tauro 03/30/2018 at 14:20

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Autonomous systems run on numbers, cops work on feelings. This is not compatible.

facw > McMike 03/30/2018 at 14:44

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I mean the autonomous car should pull over if it sees the flashing lights. But the cop is going to have a hard time asking for license and registration.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 03/30/2018 at 16:04

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The 10.8 feet thing is actually a good point. What does an autonomous car do at an intersection or a crosswalk? There may be a person wanting to cross at the edge of the road - which could easily be greater than 10.8 feet away. In a world of autonomous cars will one ever yield? Will they always yield even if a person is just standing there? Will pedestrians always need to press a button and wait for a light to turn green? Crazy how many basic problems that had been solved long ago just by virtue of humans being able to read cues are coming up as roadblocks with autonomous tech.